i run 34 pages (right now, that can go up and down at any time) on Facebook.
and the one group thats the most active, is a dolly scammers group, for ppl who have had issues with artists, or sellers/buyers and want to make a claim, to say they think an individual is a scammer.
well, ive been running this thing for a while, alone.
i add ppl every morning to the group.
and i welcome them all with an announcement teling them to make sure they read and understand the rules of this group.
we will not allow name slinging, or disrespect, in or out of the group, you MUST rovide evidence of your claim, or theres no point in making one, everyone can screen capture anything anymore...PC/Laptop, even smartphones have the ability to screen capture anything anymore.
very little drama, for a group of like 1500+ members in it.
maybe once, twice a month a ripple hapens, and within a week, its done and settled. but oer all, very quiet place to monitor and watch.
not long ago a former member came in and accused the former creator of the group of scamming.
well make these ppl (claimant) person A, and the other individual (who the claim is about) B for this discussion.
so, A came in and said B was a scammer.
i was connected to both ppl for a while. A & B.
A came into this scammers group and made a huge stink about a doll that she says she never got from B
and i got wind of the fact that B (who had left the group for personal reason) was wanting to possibly come back into the group.
so, i asked the members to be respectful, and remember that what you give is what youll get. respect is the main factor in this group, you can make a claim, and you can talk, heck, even yell, but i draw the line at disrespct. one mention, one slight motion, one off color woird, name calling, anything of that nature, and i kick you out.
well, A saw my post about respecting B and flipped all the way out, called me everything under the book, except a decent human, and said i was siding with B, which i was not...i cant as an admin...its not right.
and B< never came in anyway.
so, A dissconnected from me. and eventualy so did B.
and i sat with the knowledge i didnt need to defend myself, and let either party know the other had let me go, if you want to know, you are an adult, you can ask, but if you think you dont care, you wouldnt anyway, and im not required to save face for you..so i kept my moth shut to both pareties.
A left the group after her tantrum. was fine with me...she kicked up way to much dust for my personal tatstes.
and B never rejoined the group.
when A left, all of her diologue about B was deleted, i didnt do it, im guessing she did it herself, fine with me, less to have to manage.
well recently a member asked about a doll that she wanted to know if it was made by B
i answered and told her yes, it is in fact, her latest work.
well, i figured that might have been the end of the subject..ive been watching the chat about it for a couple of days, nothing major was said, jsut a note about the eyes and placement, but i left that.
well, yeasterday a comment was made about the doll being "UGLY".
and i removed that statement, because thats a PERSONAL OPINION and has NOTHING to do with the thread, which was to inquire about the artist and make sure that was in fact her art..
the question was answered.
dont get me wrong, EVERYONE has a right to an opinoon..on ANYTHING and EVEYTHING...
but it has NO place, unless its about a person you feel is scamming you..in THIS group.
im not sure if i have mentioned another individual im personaly dealing with who has done something to me and my art, and has since become her won reborn artist, and the thing she did, crushed me...
took my 1st customer doll (i sold to her) and redid the entire thing, then sold it to someone else)
now, my greivance with her isnt her action about the doll...on a minor level it is, its more about her slamming my art, she asked for what i gave her, even messaged me and told me how she LOVED the doll..
then she has gone around and complained about the very things she said she loved..THATS my issue with her..
beyond that, i can appreciate HER work, even tho im not a fan of her personally...she has talent, and i wont deny that.
i dont know, maybe im different, and i cant explain why, but i can remove myself from that one thing, and look at the issue from another place, with a whole new set of eyes, and in a different light.
most ppl cant.
and i dont get that. maybe cause im different, i dont know.
but the individuals i started to talk about in the group, who, as far as i know, have never dealt with Bs artwork, were saying it was "UGLY"..
whats the reason? simply because you think shes a scammer because you read that elsewhere?
she hasnt done anything to either of them...
and they have an issue with her work..
id somewhat ge tit if they had a reason to not likie her, and then the opinion of her work spills out over..thats human nature...but why dislike her work, because of a rumor?
ppl confuse me..
like i said, i have an issue with one individual, RG, and i can step away from the issue and apprciate HER art...why cant other ppl do that?
makes no sense to me that ppl blur the issue with the talent.
and the one group thats the most active, is a dolly scammers group, for ppl who have had issues with artists, or sellers/buyers and want to make a claim, to say they think an individual is a scammer.
well, ive been running this thing for a while, alone.
i add ppl every morning to the group.
and i welcome them all with an announcement teling them to make sure they read and understand the rules of this group.
we will not allow name slinging, or disrespect, in or out of the group, you MUST rovide evidence of your claim, or theres no point in making one, everyone can screen capture anything anymore...PC/Laptop, even smartphones have the ability to screen capture anything anymore.
very little drama, for a group of like 1500+ members in it.
maybe once, twice a month a ripple hapens, and within a week, its done and settled. but oer all, very quiet place to monitor and watch.
not long ago a former member came in and accused the former creator of the group of scamming.
well make these ppl (claimant) person A, and the other individual (who the claim is about) B for this discussion.
so, A came in and said B was a scammer.
i was connected to both ppl for a while. A & B.
A came into this scammers group and made a huge stink about a doll that she says she never got from B
and i got wind of the fact that B (who had left the group for personal reason) was wanting to possibly come back into the group.
so, i asked the members to be respectful, and remember that what you give is what youll get. respect is the main factor in this group, you can make a claim, and you can talk, heck, even yell, but i draw the line at disrespct. one mention, one slight motion, one off color woird, name calling, anything of that nature, and i kick you out.
well, A saw my post about respecting B and flipped all the way out, called me everything under the book, except a decent human, and said i was siding with B, which i was not...i cant as an admin...its not right.
and B< never came in anyway.
so, A dissconnected from me. and eventualy so did B.
and i sat with the knowledge i didnt need to defend myself, and let either party know the other had let me go, if you want to know, you are an adult, you can ask, but if you think you dont care, you wouldnt anyway, and im not required to save face for you..so i kept my moth shut to both pareties.
A left the group after her tantrum. was fine with me...she kicked up way to much dust for my personal tatstes.
and B never rejoined the group.
when A left, all of her diologue about B was deleted, i didnt do it, im guessing she did it herself, fine with me, less to have to manage.
well recently a member asked about a doll that she wanted to know if it was made by B
i answered and told her yes, it is in fact, her latest work.
well, i figured that might have been the end of the subject..ive been watching the chat about it for a couple of days, nothing major was said, jsut a note about the eyes and placement, but i left that.
well, yeasterday a comment was made about the doll being "UGLY".
and i removed that statement, because thats a PERSONAL OPINION and has NOTHING to do with the thread, which was to inquire about the artist and make sure that was in fact her art..
the question was answered.
dont get me wrong, EVERYONE has a right to an opinoon..on ANYTHING and EVEYTHING...
but it has NO place, unless its about a person you feel is scamming you..in THIS group.
im not sure if i have mentioned another individual im personaly dealing with who has done something to me and my art, and has since become her won reborn artist, and the thing she did, crushed me...
took my 1st customer doll (i sold to her) and redid the entire thing, then sold it to someone else)
now, my greivance with her isnt her action about the doll...on a minor level it is, its more about her slamming my art, she asked for what i gave her, even messaged me and told me how she LOVED the doll..
then she has gone around and complained about the very things she said she loved..THATS my issue with her..
beyond that, i can appreciate HER work, even tho im not a fan of her personally...she has talent, and i wont deny that.
i dont know, maybe im different, and i cant explain why, but i can remove myself from that one thing, and look at the issue from another place, with a whole new set of eyes, and in a different light.
most ppl cant.
and i dont get that. maybe cause im different, i dont know.
but the individuals i started to talk about in the group, who, as far as i know, have never dealt with Bs artwork, were saying it was "UGLY"..
whats the reason? simply because you think shes a scammer because you read that elsewhere?
she hasnt done anything to either of them...
and they have an issue with her work..
id somewhat ge tit if they had a reason to not likie her, and then the opinion of her work spills out over..thats human nature...but why dislike her work, because of a rumor?
ppl confuse me..
like i said, i have an issue with one individual, RG, and i can step away from the issue and apprciate HER art...why cant other ppl do that?
makes no sense to me that ppl blur the issue with the talent.
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